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with some grave robbing. we're going down into the dark, cold tomb of the late romney campaign. we're going to excavate the murky truths that were the living heart and mind of the defeated republican effort. going to exhume tonight the guts of the thinking that went on and went so wrong. tonight, we get what we only guessed at, the results of which played out in the numbers of election night. the nasty, anti-immigrant politics, the attitude toward that 47%, the failure to turn out the white male vote, the reason romney picked ryan, and the wild prelude to the clint eastwood performance. tonight right here on "hardball," the dark aroma of what lies now beneath the dirt so we can understand what it looks like to think and feel your way into an historic disaster. with me are jeff zeleny with "the new york times" and susan milligan who is contributing editor at "u.s. news & world report." you laugh. it's not funny. you both attended that harvard institute of policy forum. last week with top advisers from both the obama and romney campaigns. they just released, by the way, tonight, we have the a
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at the white house. we don't know what's on the menu when president obama, mitt romney meet for lunch today. that's right. the president is hosting his former rival about 30 minutes or so from now. it is a promise the president made during a victory speech on election night. listen. >> it's only because we love this country deeply. we care so strongly about its future. in the weeks ahead i also look forward to sitting down with governor romney to talk about where we can work together to move this country forward. >> mitt romney, he was stunned by his defeat, but gracious in his concession speech. it looked like everybody was ready to make nice until romney's remarks in a phone call to top donors days after the election. he said he lost because president obama gave policy gifts to key voting groups, including miss panics, african-americans, and young voters. >> what the president's campaign did was focus on certain members of his base coalition, give them extraordinary financial gifts from the government, and then work very aggressively to turn them out to vote. >> fast forward to today when
date for mitt romney, going to the white house to meet with president obama. >> making a run for it, a zebra and a pony. those are real pictures. welcome to "early start." this was sent to us yesterday. they said this is a serious and true story. i said no way. it is. john berman is hosting "starting point" at 7:00, it's now 5:00 a.m. in the east. first 33 days until we reach the fiscal cliff and things are heating up on capitol hill. tim geithner, the chief fiscal cliff negotiator will meet with congressional leaders in an effort to get talks moving. there's no time to waste because there may be 33 days to get a deal done, but congress breaks for the holiday. that happens in just 15 days. white house correspondent dan lothian is live from washington this morning. dan, that clock is ticking louder and louder what is the very latest? i hear there are one-on-one meetings happening today. >> that's right. these are the president himself not sitting down and talking with lawmakers, but timothy geithner will be on capitol hill and other senior level members of the administration trying t
romney had lunch with president obama over at the white house. and in the middle east, joy and flag waving because of an impending decision at the united nations. i'll ask israel's ambassador to the united states why he thinks -- why his country thinks the u.n.'s possibly interaction is a bad idea. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> we begin with today's hard words in the negotiations to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. that steep across the board spending cut and tax increase scheduled to hit in just 33 days. in a scathing assessment today, the speaker of the house john boehner says there's been no substantive progress on a deal. need to realize there can be no deal without tax rates going up for top earners. let's go live to our chief white house correspondent jessica yellin. she's got more on the latest developments. tough talk from both sides, jessica. >> reporter: tough talk and some bright lines, wolf. on the same day that treasury secretary tim geithner went to capitol hill to meet with both democrats and republicans to talk about these negotiations, there
today at the white house. none other than mitt romney himself. tagg, by the way was not invited. there will be no reporters or no photographs allowed either and of course, no alcohol. the white house would not say what their luncheon agenda is but they did release the luncheon menu. mitt romney will be served a healthy helping of crow. and it's about time. all right. we'll talk about that and a whole lot more here. a lot more serious stuff here on the "full court press" this morning. first, standing by with all of the latest, lisa ferguson out in los angeles. hi lisa. good morning. >> hey bill. good morning everyone. the president does have quite an interesting schedule with his lunch guest but first off he's meeting with the american nobel prize winners in the oval office and then as bill mentioned he is inviting mitt romney to lunch in the private dining room. bill is not the only one making jokes about what's on the menu. new york daily news said no sour grapes. politico's headline reads friendship not on toda
mitt romney will have a private lunch with president obama tomorrow. it will be their first face-to-face meeting since the election and oh, to be a fly on the wall. makes you wonder if they'll be talking about this, the austerity crisis, better known as the fiscal cliff facing washington and the country. this hour president obama will speak live at the white house flanked by middle-class families whose household budgets depend on congress reaching a deal by january 1st. his latest effort to use his bully pulpit. nearby on capitol hill, both parties are meeting behind closed doors at this very minute. each side hashing out where they are willing to compromise and where they are drawing the line in the sand. >>> the other big story we're watching for you, a second round of sitdowns for united nations ambassador susan rice, who's in an all-out campaign of her own to face her critics. after three republicans issued blistering comments yesterday, this morning rice is meeting with republican senator susan collins of maine and in an hour is expected to meet with senator bob corker of te
romney has been spotted at disneyland and pumping his own gas. anything to keep busy. what the former romneys are doing about their future. also triumph in the face of tragedy. a victory for the secretary of state chiefs one day after a tragic murder/suicide. big question for you. should president obama stand his ground on tax cuts for the wealthy even if it means going over the cliff. tweet me @thomasaroberts. the story keeps changing. so i'm not listening... to anyone but myself. i know better nutrition when i see it: great grains. great grains cereal starts whole and stays whole. see the seam? more processed flakes look nothing like natural grains. you can't argue with nutrition you can see. great grains. search great grains and see for yourself. for multi grain flakes that are an excellent source of fiber try great grains banana nut crunch and cranberry almond crunch. stop! stop! stop! come back here! humans -- we are beautifully imperfect creatures living in an imperfect world. that's why liberty mutual insurance has your back with great ideas like our optional better car replace
possibility about what maybe is really going on here. fwhak 2004, a guy named mitt romney was the governor of the state of massachusetts. if you don't remember who that is, he was a private equity guy from massachusetts. back in 2004, he was in the middle of his one and only term as governor. the nominee for president was a senator from the same state, john kerry of massachusetts. if he had won the presidential election that year, his senate seat would have become open. so the governor of massachusetts, the republican, mitt romney, would have been able to appoint somebody to fill john kerry's senate seat. the mts legislature totally dominated by democrats was cognizant that the governor would probably pick a republican to fill the seat if kerry got elected president. so the massachusetts state legislature decide d to change the law. they changed the law so that only a special election could fill a vacant seat. until then, the seat would have to be empty. mitt romney tried to veto that new law. but the legislature overrode his veto, thereby stripping mitt romney of his power to choose a rep
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have evolved it mitt romney had come in, he would have been national security adviser, secretary of the treasury, he was deputy secretary during president bush and happened to be a senior foreign policy ambassador to germany and is one of the very few people who synthesizes the economic and national security in such a holistic way. his dad was a famous democrat who was one of the reasons i moved to washington, really great to have bob here. to michael porter's right ahead douglas holtz-eakin iran the congressional budget office and is a distinguished economist. he was john mccain's economic adviser in the first campaign. he is now running the american action forum. he is one of the best hot shots on fiscal issues but does it kindly and then we have steve case. i wanted to give him chairmanship of the jobs council, jeff immelt had that but not for long. steve case, one of the founders and chairman of aol, he chairs the entrepreneurship council, chairman of revolution, very tied up in trying to think about what are the spark the drive innovation, creativity, how do you drive young
former rival governor romney. more on that next. scientists say they can predict in newborns. we'll tell you what it is. a tire filing smash-and-grab robbery all caught on tape. it is all "happening now". jenna: this thursday we're awaiting a big meeting at the white house. we're glad you're with us, everybody, i'm jenna lee. jon: wouldn't you love to be a fly on the wall? jenna: wonder what is on the menu? jon: i guess we'll find out. president obama making good on campaign promise as he gears up for a sit down with governor romney, the first meeting since the election. the private luncheon set to begin hour and a half from now. white house correspondent ed henry is live. what is on the agenda, ed, do we know? >> reporter: white house officials say this will be a bit more personal. not necessarily a lot of business conducted in terms of fiscal talks and what not. they believe obviously this is the first time they have gotten together not just since the election but since the debate in boca raton, florida, over a month ago. first time they have been face-to-face. this is a long tradition
romney sits. that will haunt mitt romney for a long time, 47%. let's move on 0. on the swings states, check this out here. having a little bit of a slow response rate. in the swing states, look at where president obama's percentages are at. he did better in the swing states than overall. mitt romney's 47.2%. 12 swings states broadly outlined. we throw in pennsylvania and a minnesota among 0 others. the nonswing states, the president still has over 50.7% there. mitt romney, there's that number again, 47%. let's move on to the margin of victory in the swing states. the president had a four-point margin of victory in the nonswing states. it was closer to three points. let's move on to where he won and how it counted. here, 62% of electoral votes for the president. 332 out of 538. just six presidents, six presidents, have won at least two elections with 51% of the vote or more and not since eisenhower has any president done that. the president, though, only won 22% of all counties. that's the lowest percentage out of 689. that's the lowest percentage of counties that any one president ha
the race. the big one, romney's decision to pick congressman paul ryan as his running mate. axle rod also says that he was surprised the pro-romney super pacs waited so late to launch attack ads. the romney campaign should have done a better job defining their candidate instead of leaving a vacuum for the obama campaign to fill in, they filled it in pretty early. molly ball, national political reporter for "the atlantic." lynn sweet, chief for "chicago sun-times." you wrote about this and you also say that the obama campaign is engaging supporters about how to move forward. even conducting a post-election survey of sorts. what do you know? >> we know that more than one million of the supporters answered it and we already know that this big obama army is working on fiscal cliff matters where they're sgogoing to be, t are mobilized to help support the president's plan to get the tax breaks in first, but we're learning history, finally. we're getting it in the first david alex raxlerod is talking he never thought that paul ryan would be the vice president pick. >> who did he think? >> he tho
using and offering in mitt romney's terms. it didn't work this time. it actually worked for the president to say, okay, it's not taxes rising on everyone but some people will pay more taxes. that kind of play book has worked time and time again. ultimately what breaks the fever? the trump card is with the president. taxes will go up if they do nothing. going over the cliff will see taxes going up on everyone and that's what republicans can avert if they choose to do so. >> krystal, it's not like the right is not fighting back. >> sure. >> because you you are seeing people that are openly swinging against speaker boehner's deal. senator jim demint says the tax hike will destroy american jobs. the coke brothers say leaves conservatives wanting. the heritage foundation said the proposal was asking republicans to go back on their promise not to raise taxes. so there is pushback. >> there is push back. it's not surprising there's push back, given the fact this is essentially on economic issues. all that the republican party has stood for for decades now. but what's going to b
put forth his plan on november 6th and mitt romney put forth his plan and the american people said no, we don't like that romney way of going which is to continue to coddle the rich. we agree with president obama. so now the negotiations are underway. about how to avoid going off the fiscal cliff. and what is the president doing? yesterday, he met with small business leaders. at the white house. the white house met with leaders of jack lew, the chief of staff. met with leaders of the chamber of commerce. today the president is meeting with some middle class americans who would be severely impacted if the middle class tax cuts were to expire. what this article really references is the president the white house announced yesterday is going on the road on friday, he's going back. he's going up to pennsylvania. going to visit a toy store -- last saturday, he also visit at small business, bookshop with his daughters. in arlington virginia. to make the point. the president is going out there, the white house now says
to the old system that they changed so that mitt romney wouldn't get appointed to successor to let did he havedeval patrick appoint a successor. >> i was just going to say what do you think patrick will do? >> i think he'll let the process take it. i think he'll serve out his term and move back into the private be world of private enterprise and big money law firms. >> i don't know. i think -- i disagree with you on that. >> you're not buying that. >> i'm not buying what you're dishing out. i think he'll go to the cabinet if not immediately eventually. i think he'll be a great attorney general when holder decides to step down. i think he's going to washington. that's my guess. i have no inside knowledge. charlie pierce, thanks for joining us inside the war room. coming up, out with the old, in with the new or if you'd rather, what old is new again. house republicans elect a fresh set of committee chairs and show they have gotten the message to finally be more inclusive at least one of the 19 males has a goatee. >> plus, they weren't going to change the way they did things for anyone or an
to moderate conservatives was, i'm upset about welfare as well. and we're going to reform it. and romney did not do that. and paul ryan has a particularly, you know, interesting moment coming, too. he is proposed a plan for medicare. medicare advantage. that is exactly the same as obama care is for people under the age of 65. and so i'm waiting for paul ryan to tell me the difference between his medicare advantage plan and the obama health care exchanges. >> i think we can settle this 2016 thing right now. >> what are you, kidding? >> i stopped making predictions like six seconds ago. we're great when we talk about things that happened in the past or things happening now. we're really stupid. >> joe klein gets the last very cautious word. thank you very much for joining me. from washington, d.c. tonight, breaking news from the nation's capital. house democrats are turning the screws on house speaker bain. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> unfortunately, the speaker's proposal is still out of balance. >> the president responds to john boehner, but democratic leader nancy pelosi has
winning senate confirmation. >>> well, mitt romney is going to the white house after all. the former presidential candidate is meeting president obama for lunch today in a private white house dining room. now, the president had promised, of course, in his victory speech that he would reach out to his rival. romney has been spending most post election time at his family's home in southern california. wouldn't you like to be a fly on the wall of that one? ♪ awkward >> slightly. or maybe they will actually be more, more warm and hospitable than we think. >> you think with such a partisan, divisive election. you wonder how they kind of break that ice, and the president with his political role model, lincoln. team rival. there was at some point, romney would be treasury secretary. a little unlikely. at least give romney a role in some economic council or advisory position. >> the president has gone on record and says he respects romney for his work with the olympics, restoring the olympics, you know, his skillset lends to ideas that could get the economy growing going. but his spokesman
mitt romney, newt gingrich, and the nominee in the end, mitt romney did not win. but this always happens, as part of the process, every four years. there's always the mario cuomo, always that other name that's out there that always sounds attractive to the party but perhaps there's a back story that explains why that person did not get into the race in the first place. >> but it doesn't always happen a representative of a news organization asks if her coverage is going okay. that's troublesome. i'm wondering if we can't get the comment back from k.t. mcfarland because she's somewhere under a bus right now. thank you for that reporting from washington. >>> president obama talking about the fiscal cliff. in his first television interview since the election, that cliff, of course the combination of government spending cuts and tax increases that automatically go into effect on january 1st because people we elected to make a deal can't make a deal. yesterday, republicans proposed steep spending cuts but gave no ground on president obama's call to raise taxes on the wealthiest america
17 people over, half were puerto ricans, mexican, i was the only one who voted for romney. the only one in the room. i got to tell you something, they sold the idea that republicans, more black people voted for obama because they were afraid of romney. not because they loved obama but they were so fearful of romney and republicans. >> i think it is a case of actions speaking louder than words. you can say to people we like you and we are inclusive but if you don't have representatives there that look like me or have been in my shoes i am not going to believe it. doesn't matter if you are a person of color, if you're a woman or a person of a certain economic background you need that representation and you need those people to say i am a representative -- didn't have enough of those -- >> at some point it becomes pandering if you are just rolling out one black or hispanic -- [talking over each other] charles: you have to start the republicans started two weeks ago, got to the grass roots. you can't just show up. you have to be prepared. i don't think a blanket message is going to work
, a constant presence next to mitt romney on the trail. virginia governor, bob mcdonnell, of the transvaginal proposal and scott walker whose union fighting ways made him a darling of the tea party. just to be clear, reports of the demise of the republican party are greatly exaggerated. the gop may have taken a licking, but they will most certainly keep on ticking. still, let's not be fooled by this new herd into thinking that we have a new party. reformed from lessons of november 6th. from this class alone, governors jindal, rick perry, scott walker have signalled their refusal to set up state-run health exchanges required by the affordable care act. marco rubio, paul ryan, michele bachmann, john thune and others have sworn allegiance to grover norquist by signing on to the federal taxpayer protection pledge. all thee three of the rising stars are women that doesn't mean they support women's reproductive choices. several would deny the women the right guaranteed to them by roe v. wade. even as the new herd presents your fresh faces, it's array of gender and versatility that we in nerdland wi
romney tried to make the case that occurred as is making. it has failed miserably. it has failed in history. if it fails from campaign economics. the bush tax cuts disproportionately benefit high- income people. if we get rid of those we will save a lot of money and there is minimal risk to the short term income. high income, whether you are with a wall street bond trader or a ceo of a corporation, they tend to be less vulnerable to the ups and downs of their income and middle class people. we need to support those people. that will lock in savings again. host: next caller. caller: why can't we do away with the federal reserve? if they don't have borrowing power, they do not have debt. that we cannot borrow money from china. let's do away with it. everybody buckle down for a decade and let's get this thing came down. host: let's go to our next caller in massachusetts. the democrats line. caller: looking at the fiscal cliff, we go back to 2001 with the lowering of the tax rates, meant to create jobs. but in the past 10 or 11 years, we have not had any job creation whatsoever. we k
differently, i am proud of a campaign has mitt romney and i ran. he would have been a great president. it would have been an honor to serve at his side. we gave this race our all. i am grateful for the nomination. i have to say, it is thrilling when your team trusts you with a ball. it is humbling when you advance the ball as far as you can only to come up a little short. the redskins did not find that out on sunday. the giants did. it is one of those humbling experiences that is a great lesson. losing is part of politics. it can often prepare the way for greater victories. jack kemp could be counted upon to " charge chill. failure is not fatal. it is the courage to continue that counts. this work goes on. the jack kemp legacy continues on. we need to continue on fighting for the american idea, the believe everyone should have the opportunity to rise, to escape from poverty and achieve whatever you're god-given calends enable you to achieve. -- talents enable you to achieve. for too many americans, it is not a promise being kept. our poverty rates are at the highest in a generation. o
people obviously done a lot. governor romney was a classic example i give away millions of dollars. >> what about special rates for capital gains, dividends, other things that particularly benefit the wealthy are in town? >> is the classic home break that benefits the very wealthy. they think is correct that they receive more than 90% of the benefits. people in the middle class get a little bit from the outbreak, but overwhelmingly, the majority goes to the wealthy. >> home tax loopholes alone can't solve the fiscal cliff even if you'd done been the biggest tax loopholes. they don't come close to fulfilling the deficit. how significant are these deductions when we look at their role in the big picture of solving the fiscal clef? >> they can be important, the goal is not to get rid of the budget deficit. i don't think anybody has a realistic hope of getting rid of the budget deficit and a lot of people don't want to get rid of the budget deficit. certainly, opinions differ. they can be a managing part of the deficit. >> do they play a role in negotiations and talks? there is a group
stevenson? >> the republican party wants romney to go away. he only existed as a presidential candidate and possibility. there is not a lot of clamor for stuart to be involved in another presidential campaign. i feel sorry for him. you lose. it is a short, painful thing but it lasts a long time. >> bob shrum, good to have you. >>> in the wake of the 2010 midterm elections, a fight broke out in washington over what had been a routine piece of washington business. republicans threatened to vote to force the country to default on its loans. this he were not going to raise the debt ceiling, remember. president obama responded in a prime time address to the nation. he asked the american people to get involved in that fight he was having with the republicans. he asked the american people to get involved directly. >> the american people may have voted for divided government but they didn't vote for a dysfunctional government. so i'm asking you all to make your voice heard. if you want a balanced approach to reducing the deficit, let your member of congress know. if you believe we can solve thi
here to there unless you raise the rates. that's why romney couldn't explain it during the presidential election. no one can explain it because you can't do it. >> jay carney says the speaker's plans raises more questions than answers. >> we don't know who pays. we don't know what we're talking about in terms of actual legislation to increase revenues. it's magic beans and ferry dust. >> john boehner's heavy-handed approach to leadership, boehner and the republican steering committee kicked four republican congressmen out of their committee seats for voting against party leadership in the past. but boehner finds himself in an increasingly weak position. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell refused to take a position on boehner's debt plan today. >> i have no particular observation other than i commend the house leadership for trying to move. the process along and getting to a point where hopefully we can have a real discussion. >> house democrats are cranking up the pressure. tim walsh of minnesota introduced a discharge petition on the middle class tax cuts in the house. if it gets 2
that was a vote winner, he wouldn't have put 86% of his tv ads. he ran a romney is a bad person campaign not look at how wonderful i have gotten the american economy. >> if it is on c-span >> you say here's what we want to do. we just elected a house which ran on the ryan plan. >> you are saying these are the reforms that we want. >> the president sits there and says what, because he hasn't put anything on the table that passes the lap test, hasn't put spending restraint. crazy democratic leadership, which for two years kept all the democratic senators from voting on anything. i want them to vote on something between now and 2014 because then they aren't coming back. >> if you are john boehner, speaker boehner, your proposal is -- your bright line is what? >> first of all, you want to have this conversation in public and whatever happens, you want it online. that gives you the moral high ground and allows the american people to focus on this. >> wait, what you are saying right there is a path to a deal, you're not saying they should go over a political cliff. you're saying they should fight for t
romney proposed. for the tax portion of this down payment, the decoupling of the bush tax cuts is the right way to bring in up front revenues. if they wish to have a spending cut component, fine, the ball is in their court. what sit? >> we've been specific about our down payment. what is theirs? >> if they have one on the revenue side, we'd like to see the specifics. we've been very specific. so far they haven't offered a single idea short of vouchering medicare that we all know is off the table. even mitt romney denied that one as the campaign went on. if republicans insist on spending cuts the on news is on them to come forward with some ideas t. president's budget continues over $300 billion in health savings. if they don't like that they should make a counter offer. we know that won't happen. we are waiting for some specific somewhere from our republican colleagues to show that they are serious on negotiations. >> three weeks ago the american people went to the polling places and they sent a message. democrats from president obama to our senate candidates on down built thei
. governor romney suggested that during the campaign. >> senator, pain is not something we like to talk about in american politics under any circumstances. are you confident -- i mean there has been some talk democrats do not want to put entitlement reform on the table at all ever. but you seem to think this is a real -- this will happen? >> alex, and, in fact, on the super committee the democrats put forward serious proposals on entitlement reform. we have stated very clearly, that you don't have to cut benefits to do it. that will impact people directly. i mean charging people more for their medicare is not part of the solution that we believe. privatizing it as ryan has suggested it. but we put serious, you know, considerable dollars on the table. that was rejected by the republicans for one reason. they didn't want to match it with revenue. and that's why the debate we're having right now, about extending the bush tax cuts for 98% of the americans, the middle class, is the right thing to do. letting the wealthiest tax cuts, the tax cuts go back to the clinton era, will provide the revenue
. mitt romney gave away millions and millions of dollars. host: things like capital gains dividends and other things that benefit wealthier in comes? guest: the caplet gains and dividends is the classic break that benefits the wealthy. they think it is correct if they receive more than 90% of the benefit. people and the middle class get a little benefit from that break. the majority of the break goes to the wealthy. host: there is a recent story from politico. host: how significant of these deductions? guest: they can be important. the goal is to not get rid of the budget deficit. lots of people do not want to get rid of the budget deficit. they want to get it down to a manageable level. opinions differ. you can make a big dent through closing or reducing the loopholes. host: do you expect them to play a role? could they end up on the chopping block? guest: republicans have put them on the table. i think you probably will see some of both. this is a process that will go on for the better part of the next year. during that process, you will see some of both. host: john mckinnon is a
will have lunch at the white house with his former rival, mitt romney. governor romney will be in town meeting with paul ryan. before the president's comments, house speaker john boehner and other republicans met with reporters saying they're willing to consider new sources of revenue as a solution to avoiding the fiscal cliff but will not consider raising marginal tax rates. this is about 10 minutes. >> good morning, everyone. in going over the fiscal cliff -- going over the fiscal cliff will hurt our economy and hurt job creation in our country. republicans are committed to continuing to work with the president to come to an agreement to avert the so-called fiscal cliff. it's one reason why we believe that we put revenue on the table, as long as it's accompanied by serious spending cuts to avert this crisis. we believe that this fits the president's request for a balanced approach to this issue. and we're going to continue to work with the president to try to resolve this in a way that is fair for the american people. we all know that we've had the spending crisis coming at us like a
conflict both governor romney and president obama agreed on more than they disagreed on the education reform area. -- the work of arne duncan. it's hard to take -- when he picks the local superintendent and brings him back to washington are in. there wont point of contention in the presidential race and but the exception of kind of a throw away question that jim gave the candidates at the end of the debate which i would note half of the answer on both sides ended up being about johnson and the solyndra loan. there was virtually -- there was very little mention in the presidential race i really think that's unfortunate for the country. we want to come back to how we change the dynamic a little bit. however, there was a lot happening in state and local races and i think that does give us a snapshot of where voters stand on many of the issues on being discussed at the conference fop me, there are a few take aways that education reformers should consider as we try to move forward on the agenda that governor laid out this morning. let's start with substance. we have to remember that this i
to the election every outlet came up with a short list of the cabinet for mitt romney come in for president obama. when you talk about setting up this agency council how do you guard against some sort of volatility in the national energy policy from the changing administration and the policies put in place by one administration carried over the success reforms. >> one person has to take the recommendations seriously and consider that this has merit as the president in the issues i had the the president gave significance and this could be very significant move by the administration is taken seriously by everybody in the government and that in itself was a tremendous incentive to coordination. >> there will also be volatility in a second term there will be changes that have been there for four years or ready to get out but also this isn't something that would be done instantaneously i don't think it would be done under our proposal until the end of the fourth quarter given times so that would be available to the administration i don't think it would be that big a problem although if you had the who
the election they thought mitt romney was going to win six states by five and six points he'd lost. you guys need to recalibrate a little bit there, tony. >> it's not about polling. it's about what the effect will be on the economy. just to be clear -- >> it's about getting real about where we are and what's going on here. not deluding yourself about that. >> i agree. but we shouldn't get deluded about things like the impact it's going to have on december spending, too, karen. remember we're talking about 2013 taxes, not 2012 taxes. but if americans are taking out loans based on what their tax return is going to be in april maybe we should be talking about financial literacy and not about how budgeting works. >> we can but i'm just trying to tell you realistically that's how people are living their lives in the united states of america in the 21st century. so we need to be real about how people are living their lives. >> you know what, one thing i do want to talk about, i'll begin with you tony on this. i'm sure you saw that photo making the rounds this week of house committee chairmen? what
that the republicans offered, this is just the romney-ryan plan that the american voters said no to. other than destroying our earned benefit, i do not call them entitlements because we worked hard and we earned them. there are no specifics. what loopholes will they close? of course, they are going to punish the poor and middle- class. their plan still gives another huge tax cut to the 1%. people need to look at what happened to this country between fdr and nixon. look at what happened with the conservative takeover from nixon until now. host: we are going to have congressman tom cole from oklahoma who last week said in a closed-door meeting that they should agree with president obama and extend the tax cuts for middle-class americans and then fight later on for that tax cut for the wealthy. we will ask him about this latest proposal, the counterproposal from the house republicans. j.d. on twitter says -- on our republican , richard from colorado springs, colorado. caller: c-span could put on actual science. i think there is a lot of magical thinking on the part of democrats here. first of all,
article in foreign policy recently. has been was a china adviser to mitt romney. he now heads the university of chicago. but he basically wrote about the sort of two chinas or to the ages. he said there's sort of a doctor jekyll and mr. hide that's evolving to a doctor jekyll, which is the nicer of the two is the economic issue. the dr. height is the strategic asia, is the security agent. if you look at the economic asia there's heavy amounts of interdependence, everybody is investigating each other. $19 billion in regional trade which includes india. if you look at the security asia, national entity, orders dispute, historical grievances just are driving things apart and you're seeing real impact on these. in the has its own problems in the region across china region across china. region across chandigarh on the border dispute. if you look at this is something that you want to be deeply engaged in or do you look at this is basically something that you can ride along and freeload and let america and canada and japan handled? >> steve, your question -- >> i'm and freeload, by t
about the ryan plan, and just like we saw in the romney plan, when you're talking about simply closing loopholes and ending deductions, either the math doesn't add up or the middle class ends up bearing the entire burden. republicans are tying themselves up in knots to avoid the obvious. easiest way to raise revenue from the wealthiest americans is simply to allow the bush tax cuts for the top 2% to expire as scheduled. that's what the democrats want. it's what the american people support. and it would move us a long way towards balanced and bipartisan dealing we're all working to get to. mr. president, my colleague in the house of representatives, minority leader pelosi, is circulating a discharge petition to bring the senate bill to the house floor. i strongly support this move and i urge house republicans to sign on and allow this legislation to come to the floor for a vote. mr. president, democrats have proven we are willing to make the tough compromises, that a balanced and bipartisan deal will require. and we've been very clear we will not allow republicans to push through a bad
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